May 22 2018 39 mins 14
Kelly talks to author Jonah Sachs about his new book, Unsafe Thinking, which looks at the science and stories behind breakthrough ideas. http://serve.castfire.com/audio/3505811/3505811_2018-05-18-174611.64kmono.mp3?ad_params=zones%3DPreroll%7Cstation_id%3D4355.mp3
