Two White Men and A Black Woman on Knowing, Being Known, and Trusting with Dr. Paul Hoard and Dr. Doug Shirley - Part 3
Oct 22 2023
28 mins
Dr. Paul Hoard and Dr. Doug Shirley join the podcast today for part three of the discussion on knowing, being known, and trusting. Both Dr. Hoard and Dr. Shirley are associate professors of counseling psychology at The Seattle School. Today, they continue to delve into conversation with Dr. Gadson on building relationships across differences, discussing collective shame, and identi